Brandon Lake & Phil Wickham
Writing Songs With People in Mind
Brandon Lake and Phil Wickham talk about songwriting that serves—writing with real people, real moments, and real worship in mind.

Brandon Lake & Phil Wickham teaches Writing Songs With People in Mind
Brandon Lake and Phil Wickham talk about songwriting that serves—writing with real people, real moments, and real worship in mind.
Conversation Overview
Episodes:
- Episode 1 : What It Means to Run After God’s Presence
- Episode 2 : What Atmospheres Are You Creating?
- Episode 3 : Writing Songs With Faces in Mind
- Episode 4 : Timely vs. Timeless Songs
- Episode 5 : If You’re Alive & Writing Songs Right Now… This Is for You
- Episode 6 : Ambition Is a Beautiful Thing
- Episode 7 : ‘Old Hallelujahs’ and New Melodies
Conversation Description:
Brandon Lake and Phil Wickham dive into the heart of songwriting—crafting songs that serve the church and connect with real people. From the pursuit of God’s presence to balancing ambition with humility, they share how intentionality shapes both lyrics and atmospheres. This conversation unpacks the difference between timely and timeless songs, the beauty of collaboration, and the responsibility of writing with others in mind.
Instructor(s):
Brandon Lake & Phil Wichkam
Topics Covered:
Songwriting
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